It is always a pleasure to speak with Shawna Rosenzweig from Camp Fire, a relentless leader in her pursuit of equity and justice. In our conversation, Shawna reflected on her personal journey leading nonprofit, youth development organizations. She returned again and again to the key to success and a renewable source of energy for her: relationships.

What a joy to speak with Penn Sheppard from Girls Inc. Driven by passion, Penn has led girl-centered nonprofit work for 40 years. In our interview, she shares her core philosophies that have kept her motivated and making an impact over time. She also discusses the key to navigating the toughest challenge she’s faced: navigating change.